Power window not working, remove door trim and lubricate
Yes I know I was going to post about the creak from the rear... it's coming... soon
I could hear the Passenger side door window trying to open but it would budge. So off with the interior trim
1. Remove screw holding upper trim
2. Remove screws holding latch chrome plate
3. Remove the ingress lamp. These are so fragile. The slightest movement shatters them. Unplug the two leads and label for later replacement.
4. Remove the lock button.
5. Remove the Power seat switch (they pull off although may need gentle levering with a screwdriver)
6. Remove the Power seat trim plate (clipped on at front end). This covers the larger screw for the armrest/handle. May need WD40.
7. Remove the armrest/handle (3 screws)
8. Remove the interior door lever cover (soft plastic insert)
9. Remove screw holding the door lever backing plate.
10 Sign ELNO...
11. Now the door is held on at bottom by a screw on some models, mine doesn't have that.
12. The door trim should lift straight up and out BUT... mine was somewhat stuck to the door. I used a thin blade to separate the sticky trim without trying to pull it off. Be aware there are several hooks to levering may break those. You should be able to lift straight up avoid pulling outward as those hook break (mine did). If they break some quality double sided tape will come to your rescue :0)
13 Took a look at the mechanism. Gave it a good does of grease on the geared lever.
14 Tried the switch. Working better but I think the electric motor is tired. Will have to investigate further....
My saviors are here:
http://ozbenz.net/
Sunday, June 30, 2013
Welcome to the wonderful world of the W126 Chassis
Thought I'd reluctantly join the blogging world!
Please only post if you are interested and have some social grace, otherwise you will only be wasting your time when I report and delete unwanted posts...
My blog is about a car I recently purchased AKA Goldie. She is a Mercedes Benz 1991 420SEL.
This blog is about my time working through some if the issues she has, being 21 years old and "engineered like no other" :P
So Goldie has been my daily drive for past few days to work and back, but my real intention is for her to to be an occasional drive...
I have neither owned nor driven a MB until now (and I'm more than twice Goldie's age). It has however been a dream to have one in my garage since I was a schoolboy. My special interest in cars remains and I am lucky enough to work in the Australian auto industry.
Back to Goldie... So far a number of items have shown up, as you can imagine a grand old lady even as well looked after she has been. As you can imagine this car has all bells and whistle's (central locking, power windows, cruise etc) back in circa 1991 (analogue car phone LOL)... and things which can go wrong over time or with lack or attention. Most of these features are now found on even the basic of cars these days.
So a growing list of items needing work and what I did to fix them, where I got parts, who I contacted etc, in case you are doing the same and need help (please take note I am no expert and cannot be responsible if you followed something I did and it didn't work for you too, this Blog is purely for information sharing)...
Cruise Control - not disengaging with brake application
Rear seat creaking
Ashtray wood trim (it's real wood too) detached
Windshield trim alignment is off
Lube Doors Hinges and openers, mostly OK except for drivers door being slightly noisy.
Lube Bonnet Hinge and latches, OK but won't hurt.
hmm, this list is getting long...er. ;)
Adjust Bonnet height on LHS... looks off to the front fender.
Electric aerial not fully closing, clunk, clunk, clunk...
Corrosion near battery - minor surface on hood under and strut tower/firewall.
Aircond - thought it was working the other day but not cooling at moment on a warm day.
But wait there could (will) be more....
My saviors are here:
http://ozbenz.net/
Please only post if you are interested and have some social grace, otherwise you will only be wasting your time when I report and delete unwanted posts...
My blog is about a car I recently purchased AKA Goldie. She is a Mercedes Benz 1991 420SEL.
This blog is about my time working through some if the issues she has, being 21 years old and "engineered like no other" :P
So Goldie has been my daily drive for past few days to work and back, but my real intention is for her to to be an occasional drive...
I have neither owned nor driven a MB until now (and I'm more than twice Goldie's age). It has however been a dream to have one in my garage since I was a schoolboy. My special interest in cars remains and I am lucky enough to work in the Australian auto industry.
Back to Goldie... So far a number of items have shown up, as you can imagine a grand old lady even as well looked after she has been. As you can imagine this car has all bells and whistle's (central locking, power windows, cruise etc) back in circa 1991 (analogue car phone LOL)... and things which can go wrong over time or with lack or attention. Most of these features are now found on even the basic of cars these days.
So a growing list of items needing work and what I did to fix them, where I got parts, who I contacted etc, in case you are doing the same and need help (please take note I am no expert and cannot be responsible if you followed something I did and it didn't work for you too, this Blog is purely for information sharing)...
Cruise Control - not disengaging with brake application
Rear seat creaking
Ashtray wood trim (it's real wood too) detached
Windshield trim alignment is off
Lube Doors Hinges and openers, mostly OK except for drivers door being slightly noisy.
Lube Bonnet Hinge and latches, OK but won't hurt.
hmm, this list is getting long...er. ;)
Adjust Bonnet height on LHS... looks off to the front fender.
Electric aerial not fully closing, clunk, clunk, clunk...
Corrosion near battery - minor surface on hood under and strut tower/firewall.
Aircond - thought it was working the other day but not cooling at moment on a warm day.
But wait there could (will) be more....
My saviors are here:
http://ozbenz.net/
Monday, October 15, 2012
Power antenna not retracking fully
Hi, So some of those little jobs were started...
That annoying electric antenna, every time the radio was powered up/down. It wouldn't completely seat within the mast case, so about 8cm sticking up with the triple clunk as it tried to finish closing. I usually tend to the "don't/won't drive" first followed by annoying noises, followed by other. You can get the picture about me and noise...
Anyway I carefully removed the boot liner on the LHS. Nice brown (eek, but take note very user friendly) felt cover. It was a matter of removing the rear tail lamp inner panel and that has two knobs, which are just for bulb replacement, so far so good. Carefully sliding the liner out at various stages until of was free.
The power antenna was not an original MB job (my looks like the one below), but looking around on internet not a real cheap one either. You can get a new "universal" one on Ebay for as low at 40-50 AUD and even twice that amount is common fare. While I'm all for cheap, something like a noisy clunky replacement would probably detract from the overall feel.
Anyway I disconnected all the wires which were colour coded and easy to figure how to refit. The earth wire was removed easily. I think there should have been a bracket to stabilise the unit but there wasn't, yours may have one. Also the actual antenna lead which is thick black with a larger connector was not willing to budge. So I left that connected fearing it would simply break.
So now the unit was almost free, with only the nut located on the outside of the car around the mast. It was actually loose so I unscrewed it by hand. There are a handful of parts here you need to remember how this comes apart. The nut, a couple of chrome trim pieces, the rubber seal. Also on the inner side there is a semicircular toothed fixture to grip the fender and yet another washer under that.
Then it's a matter of sliding the unit down within the boot and there you have it. Since there are a number of units around yours may differ but I think mostly they are similar in how they work. Firstly I noticed the mast was very tight and wouldn't move easily up and down by hand. The masts generally have a long nylon whip which has teeth along one edge. I opened the cover on one side by undoing a single nut which exposed the gears. There is a electric motor and series of gears which the whip is fed through as the largest gear turns.
For my problem the motor was still working OK but the mechanism was stiff. I suspected some teeth were torn on the whip which could explain it's action. I full extended the mast and ran my finger along the whip but couldn't locate broken teeth, a good sign! I think what may have happened was the lack of grease caused the mask to become too stiff for the mechanism and at some point the whip jumped a few cogs. From then on the mechanism was unable to wind fully. What I did was re-grease the whip (with mast closed fully) then drawing the mast fully out the grease was fed into the mechanism via the whip. I then replaced the cover. I wasn't confident this had worked but I though I may as well reinstall the unit. If it didn't work I would be looking for another so in the meanwhile, at least the hole would be filled rather than leaving it open until the replacement was fitted.
To my surprise it worked. Well at least 3-4 times so far. Maybe I fixed it, maybe I didn't, time will tell, but I was happy with a couple of hours fiddling around and it working again...
Next job that creaking rear!
My saviors are here:
http://ozbenz.net/
That annoying electric antenna, every time the radio was powered up/down. It wouldn't completely seat within the mast case, so about 8cm sticking up with the triple clunk as it tried to finish closing. I usually tend to the "don't/won't drive" first followed by annoying noises, followed by other. You can get the picture about me and noise...
Anyway I carefully removed the boot liner on the LHS. Nice brown (eek, but take note very user friendly) felt cover. It was a matter of removing the rear tail lamp inner panel and that has two knobs, which are just for bulb replacement, so far so good. Carefully sliding the liner out at various stages until of was free.
The power antenna was not an original MB job (my looks like the one below), but looking around on internet not a real cheap one either. You can get a new "universal" one on Ebay for as low at 40-50 AUD and even twice that amount is common fare. While I'm all for cheap, something like a noisy clunky replacement would probably detract from the overall feel.
Anyway I disconnected all the wires which were colour coded and easy to figure how to refit. The earth wire was removed easily. I think there should have been a bracket to stabilise the unit but there wasn't, yours may have one. Also the actual antenna lead which is thick black with a larger connector was not willing to budge. So I left that connected fearing it would simply break.
So now the unit was almost free, with only the nut located on the outside of the car around the mast. It was actually loose so I unscrewed it by hand. There are a handful of parts here you need to remember how this comes apart. The nut, a couple of chrome trim pieces, the rubber seal. Also on the inner side there is a semicircular toothed fixture to grip the fender and yet another washer under that.
Then it's a matter of sliding the unit down within the boot and there you have it. Since there are a number of units around yours may differ but I think mostly they are similar in how they work. Firstly I noticed the mast was very tight and wouldn't move easily up and down by hand. The masts generally have a long nylon whip which has teeth along one edge. I opened the cover on one side by undoing a single nut which exposed the gears. There is a electric motor and series of gears which the whip is fed through as the largest gear turns.
For my problem the motor was still working OK but the mechanism was stiff. I suspected some teeth were torn on the whip which could explain it's action. I full extended the mast and ran my finger along the whip but couldn't locate broken teeth, a good sign! I think what may have happened was the lack of grease caused the mask to become too stiff for the mechanism and at some point the whip jumped a few cogs. From then on the mechanism was unable to wind fully. What I did was re-grease the whip (with mast closed fully) then drawing the mast fully out the grease was fed into the mechanism via the whip. I then replaced the cover. I wasn't confident this had worked but I though I may as well reinstall the unit. If it didn't work I would be looking for another so in the meanwhile, at least the hole would be filled rather than leaving it open until the replacement was fitted.
To my surprise it worked. Well at least 3-4 times so far. Maybe I fixed it, maybe I didn't, time will tell, but I was happy with a couple of hours fiddling around and it working again...
Next job that creaking rear!
My saviors are here:
http://ozbenz.net/
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